138: Sunday School Teaching Tips For All Ages | with Waynell Henson

Listen in to today's episode for a conversation with That Sunday School Girl, Waynell Henson.

Growing up in a small church, Waynell shares her appreciation for smaller spaces as she encourages Sunday School teachers to teach to one like they are teaching to 100.

With a YouTube following of over 42,000, Wanell shares her commitment "to encouraging a community of Sunday School Lovers who just enjoy being prepared and who come to class ready to be difference makers.

Sunday School isn’t just for kids.  It’s one more way for God’s Word to become alive in our everyday lives!"


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Transcript

Laurie Acker: 0:01

Hey, this is Laurie Acker, welcome to the small church ministry podcast. Hey, hey, welcome back to another episode of the small church ministry podcast, where we we love small churches. Can I just say that like we just, we just love small churches, and it's been so fun connecting with people in small churches all over the world, you know, hearing what God is doing, and even talking to people who grew up in small churches and hearing their unique perspective. We've got an awesome guest on the podcast today, Wayne Nell Henson has spoken at many of our conferences. I don't even know how many at this point, but she is one of our favorite conference speakers, and has a beautiful platform talking about Sunday school. And so I'm just going to have Wayne introduce herself here, just kicking us off. We're going to talk about small churches. We're going to talk about Sunday school. We're going to give some practical tips and fun and wrap up and hear even more about what waynell is up to these days. But waynell, if, if I said, like, how would you introduce yourself? Like, what? What pops to mind? Because you do a lot of stuff. So just however you want to go with that, how would you introduce yourself to a whole bunch of people just listening online?

Waynell Henson: 1:17

Well, alrighty, good afternoon. Hello everyone, and thank you so much, Laurie for having me on the podcast today. I am waynell Henson. I reside in Dallas, Texas, but I'm a native of Kansas City, Kansas, and I always tell people that I love shrimp. It's my favorite food. I love my family. I love traveling, and yes, I love the ministry of Sunday school. I do serve in my local church as a member of the pastor's administrative team. I'm a Sunday school teacher, but since I was with you last, I'm now the acting superintendent of our Sunday school. So just another role, but another opportunity to really make a difference in Christian education. And I think that Bible literacy is so important, and I just I love what God allows me to do in the spaces that he allows me to serve. I do have a little place of digital evangelism on YouTube under the name that Sunday school girl. So it is a blessing to be connected to people, literally all over the world who want to know more about the Word of God. So it's pretty awesome.

Laurie Acker: 2:16

I love that you called a little online space. It's a you have a huge platform, and this, this name, that Sunday school girl, just totally cracks me up, because you've, like, owned it like you are that Sunday school girl. Like, if anybody looks up that Sunday school girl, you're gonna find Wayne El. I want to talk a little bit about your growing up in a small church. But before we do that, that Sunday school girl, did you have this in mind before you became that Sunday school girl. Like, how did that grow? How did that I have no idea what your what that history is. So can you tell us a little bit about that?

Waynell Henson: 2:48

Sure, I actually love this question. So to be honest, our church, my national church, had received, like some negative publicity. This was in the fall of 2014 and I was so frustrated hearing all the things that were being said, you know, about the faith community, and we were literally the joke of every comedian, including Jimmy Kimmel. Like this thing got national attention, and on a Friday, I flipped on my Facebook camera, and I was like, You know what? You all have talked about my church all week long. Can you talk about anything else? We're going to talk about Sunday school. And for six minutes and 35 seconds, I literally talked about the Sunday school lesson for the upcoming Sunday and I had a friend who, at the time, was doing a conference call studying. And I was like, now if you want to talk more about this lesson, go see him on Saturday night. Here's here's the dial in number. And I turned off the video camera, and I had people like that was really good. Are you gonna do that again? I was like, No. And then I literally had two big sisters who said to me, I think you need to pray, because there is something God is trying to show you there. So on Fridays, same thing, there was no plan. I would just flip on a camera on Facebook. I was never talking any more than 10 minutes, and just about the lesson. And I knew by the end of the year, beginning of the next year, that God was showing me something bigger. So I just got quiet. And for five months I was trying to figure out, God, what do you want me to do? Okay, well, I'm supposed to do that. Well, first of all, God, I am a single female. I don't know where the resources are coming from. Oh, by the way, God, do you know I don't know how to build a web page. I have no idea how to use YouTube and where am I going to get all this stuff? But I tell people all the time, when God gives you vision for something, it is not up to you to figure out all of the details and how he's going to work it out. And everything that I needed along the way, God showed me how to do it. So I went on Wix, and I learned how to build a website. I went on YouTube. It was free to do and I learned how to start doing these things. So a lot of the things that I did, it wasn't that it required a lot of money, it just required an authentic Yes, and things have changed through the years in terms of how I do the work, but I always go back to my beginning in this was never anything that I sought out. To do. I'm not even full time ministry, so I never set out to be, you know, a YouTuber or an influencer or anything like that. I literally wanted to talk about the Word of God,

Laurie Acker: 5:11

yeah, I love it, and it's so like, people ask me, Is this your vision? I'm like, I didn't have a vision. I just start going and, like, it just kind of grew, you know. And so I love this so much with your story, and now, how many years later, and how many YouTube videos like Do you Have you counted like? How many you've done? Oh,

Waynell Henson: 5:27

goodness, I'm definitely nine. A little over nine years in May was nine years. And May 1 is our anniversary, and I don't know how many videos there are. I have to look at my Google or YouTube Analytics for that, but literally doing a lesson every single weekend. I am amazed at the expansion. And I'm not just talking about like listeners or people subscribe to the channel, but because ministries use so many different resources, what I started doing, and I'll say this, when I started, I was not even a Sunday school teacher. I was a student. I took a break from teaching while I went through law school, so I wasn't even a teacher. I was a student, and my language was I just want to talk to students. I want to talk to people who are preparing to go sit in a class making sure that we're all prepared to be great students. Now I eventually started teaching again so to be able to expand into spaces where I'm able to provide resources for teachers. I am loving being invited into spaces to do training with Christian education leaders of every level, to be able to share how we make these types of Bible study relatable, relevant, real, and able to truly make an impact. So I am, I am amazed. And back to the idea of curriculum. I mean, churches use lots of different things, so right now, I'm actually supporting three curriculums, and that's probably going to change a little bit, because it's a lot to do three Bible studies in one week. But again, I think the principles of what we do and how we serve, and finding that space in the word like that doesn't change regardless of the curriculum that you tried that you seek to

Laurie Acker: 7:04

use? Yeah, well, every time you've spoken for our audience, we've always gotten comments of things that they're using and learning and just growing in so many different ways, from from like 25 minutes of what you said. So I'm really excited to get to that in this podcast episode to leave you know our listeners with a couple really practical steps that can help them engage people more in the Word of God, even more than they're doing right now. But before we do that, I loved talking to you when we first met about your growing up in a small church, and what you loved about it. Can you share a little bit about that?

Waynell Henson: 7:38

Absolutely I am without question from a small church. In fact, it is a it was a family church. It was and is a family church. And when I use that term, it was largely made up of, I'll say two, maybe three families. But my grandfather was our pastor, and so it was pretty fun experience to know him, both as paw paw, but also as a pastor, I'll say that we I think the biggest benefit of growing up in a small church is this incredible appreciation that we learn to have for ministry and for serving. So I always tell people that I There was never a time that I didn't, you know, I wasn't reared to have not only a heart for God, but a heart for God's people. And whether it was cleaning up on Saturdays or, you know, my first job in church was as the Sunday school secretary, there were always these amazing opportunities. And I believe that today, like children who are the beneficiaries of small church training, I don't care what anybody says, they have better memories, they have better reading skills. And, God knows, as it relates to like public speaking, it is our children who are not afraid to get up and do these things. Why? Because we've had Easter speeches, we've had Christmas speeches, and, you know, Christmas plays and all the things. So I just think it, it builds a different level of confidence and a different commitment to service, which I know I carry with me today. So I love, you know, small church and I also believe that I said this during the pandemic, I felt like the pandemic was like one of the finest hours for small church leaders, because it was just this incredible time where we got to serve one another in a different way, and our people don't get lost in the shuffle, because small churches are truly family to each other. And growing up in Kansas City in small church and having friends from other small churches, same denomination, but everyone was kind of in their small church, but we went to school together, and our families were friends, and it really created this bond of friendship for life, but also, again, this incredible commitment to service, so I wouldn't trade it for anything. Yeah,

Laurie Acker: 9:47

yeah. And I love how you when you've talked about Sunday school teaching, you've talked about, like, the numbers in the room don't matter. You know, when you're teaching with quality and excellence and engagement and all of that, that it doesn't matter if you're teaching. One or to five or to 20. And I think sometimes, as teachers, we show up, and how would you respond to that? You show up and you were hoping for more, and you've got two or three, you know, whether it's children or adults. How would you advise a teacher? Because that is something we encounter a lot in small churches. There's that, Oh, I feel deflated. How do you speak back to that?

Waynell Henson: 10:22

So I always tell people that you have to teach one like it's 100 and I mean that there were, when I first started teaching Sunday school here in Texas, I was assigned to a college class, and I'll definitely say that for months, and there were two of us, co teaching, and we were preparing each week and meeting and all the things, and we would come and there would be one student. Now, some of that, I think that God is trying to test whether we're going to be faithful. Not excited about a launch of something, but are you literally going to be faithful? I also challenge teachers with this, like, if God dropped 50 people in your class tomorrow, are you prepared? And I think that he gives us the spaces in smaller settings to really build the disciplines that are required so that we can be faithful. You know, you're faithful over a few things, he makes you ruler over many. So I think that he's giving us a chance to make sure that we are prepared for those larger numbers. And it gives us this great space to grow. So even now on Sunday mornings, you know, when I walk around and look at the classes, you know, we struggle a little bit with being on time on Sunday mornings for the 930 started Sunday school, but just a couple of weeks ago, you know, I walked in a room and there was a teacher who had one student, and it was 935 and I was like, What are we doing? This student has shown up on time. We owe it to that individual to be our best, no matter what that is. And so you know that treating one like it's 100 I believe that you give it your all, and I think that over time, as people start to see the benefit, and, quite frankly, hear the benefits of being in our teaching spaces, you know, they have no choice but to grow, but we have the obligation to treat one like 100

Laurie Acker: 12:31

Yeah, awesome. Okay, so are you ready to share some of your favorite tips, like on how to be a great Sunday school teacher? I

Waynell Henson: 12:38

am, I am. So I have been sharing recently through a method that I'm referring to as the spark method. So if you're listening today, and you can jot this down, or grab your phone and put this in your notes. I think it'll help you. The spark method is pretty simple, but it really does cause you to think about like, how you show up as a teacher, leader. You know what you're looking to create. I think as a foundation, we all have to remember that Sunday school is not a schedule. And I'll say that again, Sunday school is not a schedule. It is a spiritual discipline. And as we look at what it means to sit in places of Christian education, it is not about, you know, worrying about who's going to be there and that you know every single week, you know, you've got to know. It is a discipline that believers, who are disciples, want to tap into. And I think that's important to center yourself as a teacher and realize that we are a part of the discipleship making model our pastoral leaders will preach sermons on Sundays, but at the end of the day, it is more than the Sunday morning sermon that disciples need to understand what it means to be conformed to the image of God And what that looks like to live out our faith in a way every day that is bold and that is authentic. So I think if you approach your teaching space in that way, it really grounds you back to purpose. And I think we did this Saturday in our training at my local church, like take a moment and reflect on like your Why? Why do you teach? Why do you teach Sunday school? Why do you teach Bible study? Why do you teach small group? And in those moments when you find yourself a little bit deflated, always go back to why you do what you do. And I hope that a big part of what you do is understanding that you are part of the discipleship of someone else. And disciples make disciples, right? So not only do you pay it forward, but as you build and make disciples. That's Bible. We make disciples, then disciples will make other disciples, and that is ultimately how we expand the kingdom of God. So this is The Spark method that I want to share with you. The S is really for stimulating passion, and as a teacher, if you don't have passion for what you do, no one else is going to be excited for you. You are the first cheerleader, the first champion of what is happening in your teaching space. So I think that if you are genuinely passionate about the material that you study, that it is easy for you to convey that passion. I keep trying to share with our teachers that this is more than just pulling out your commentary and reading and coming in and rehearsing what you've heard on a Sunday morning. You want to be excited about the Word of God. Passion is contagious. I believe that. So when you're excited about the material, then students are going to tap into that. And they're going to share that enthusiasm with you ways that you can create that passion. And passion is more than just the like levels of excitement of your voice, but literally tapping into personal stories and anecdotes and showing students how that lesson has been real to you, I think, has a significant way of translating that passion to your students. Your P is for promoting and inviting atmosphere you set the tone. I want you to think about every teaching space as a community, and you are creating an atmosphere that is inviting. I think that that includes both a welcoming invite, environment where everyone is welcome, their ideas are welcome, their feedback, they're sharing. You're making it a place where students feel both excited, but I think this is a big deal too. In our churches, people need to feel safe. They need to feel safe to share their experiences. They need to feel safe, to ask their questions like there are no dumb questions, but knowing that the spaces that we create are learning spaces where, again, there's excitement and people feel safe, our a is for activating engagement, activating engagement, and when we talk about activating engagement, lessons are not just for us to read and memorize and know memory verses, but we've got to make the material engaging, making sure that every Bible study that we open up literally connects people back to real life. So all the studies that I've done, the curriculum that we've used for Sunday school, has basically been like Bible in an entire year. And so as we've gotten into the New Testament, specifically, yes, I love the background, like, who wrote the book? You know, what were the major issues? What were the people like? But I tapped differently into not just the writer of the book. I've now started asking, Who are these people? What is their deal? What are their issues? What do they have going on? And specifically, how are their issues? Like us today? So if you look at a number of like the New Testament churches, even dealing with false teachers, dealing with culture and environment, that's us today, there are all kinds of voices that are around, that are trying to tap at our faith and to chip away at what we believe. And there's all sorts of things in pop culture that don't reflect what we connect within our faith. So we're just like these people, even though they're in Bible context. So there's all kinds of ways that you can make those stories relate to our everyday experiences. We've got to see our challenges inside of their challenges, and I think that's where we find that activation. I also believe that there, this is where we tap into the creativity of teaching. And so if you teach and you lecture the entire time, you have missed the essence of your teaching moment, because students learn in different ways, and we won't get into it today, the various methods, the modalities of learning. But I want you to think about students who are like me, and they learn from visual examples. There are students who learn from what they hear. They're auditory. There are some who are kinesthetic. And yes, adults can be kinesthetic. You know, adults love crafts. Adults love games. Adults love competitive things. So you can look at things like that, and even videos that you're able to engage in. I'll tell any church this, because, again, I come out of a small church. I'm talking about the kind where, when we didn't have classroom space we would divide up in the sanctuary and go to the four corners, and you would try not to be too loud to disturb the other class on the other side. But with all the technology that we have now, it is possible to use even if you don't have big screens. You can use your phones. You can bring a tablet and allow your tablet to be a space where you show videos. I'm a big fan of Nearpod. Nearpod is free. It's pretty intuitive to use, and even if you're going to use like videos in class, you can allow students to watch the video on their own devices, with ear pods or anything like that, in a small sanctuary. So lots of ways that you can engage technology. You know, think about group projects and one of my one of my favorite things right now for engagement is a document that I produce every week called 20 questions. And it's literally that like the old school 20 questions, but it asks questions about the lesson that I'm teaching. And the main purpose of it is to equip teachers with questions that they can throw out to their class, and you can have people pair and share. They can do small groups. You can share out loud. But I love something that one of our leaders shares in our national church, and he says that wisdom is in the question, and what you'll find is that people are going to gain so much more by. The conversations that they have in your Bible studies, then they will just from your lecture. Let me keep us moving here. My R is for revitalizing relationships, and I don't want you to to miss the importance of forming strong relationships with your students really paying attention to them. When you learn what their needs are, you will learn how to adjust for the efficiency and the effectiveness of your learning environment and inside of that as well. I think as you develop those relationships, both with your teachers and with your students, it will help you design the program that best meets your needs. So like right now, we're currently going through sort of what I call end of the year discussions in our Sunday school, because September starts a new year in Sunday school curriculum. So it's like back to school for us, but I'm literally meeting with every teacher. What have you enjoyed about teaching? What have you enjoyed about your class? What are those opportunities? What do you see as an opportunity for our Sunday School overall. And here's the biggest question, do you still feel that God is calling you to this space of serving and teaching? Because I believe that right now we are in a time that is so critical that if you are not in a space that God has authentically called you to serve, you are probably not placed in the right ministry space. So think about relationships that you develop encourage your students to engage with each other, even during the week. A lot of what happens in terms of our teaching ministry is not about what you study in a book, but it is about those relationships that we create in those spaces, and that too, again, includes those abilities to have discussions and to even share out of our personal experiences inside of those classes. I believe it's Paul who's talking about, like, really, like, not even hiding the things that we go through, and being able to talk transparently about what's going on, because as we share inside of community, not only is it good for us? Because it builds our faith, but it tells the community around us like God can see you through this too. My last letter is the K, and the K is to keep growing. I don't care if it's one today, set a goal. Keep growing. How do you grow? No matter what size church you are, you gotta have a system of regular feedback. Don't be afraid of what students will say about you. You should ask at least once a year. What do you think about this class? Do a survey. Do it on Google. You know you can hand out a survey, but what do you think? Give me feedback? Feedback encourages students, because it gives them some buy in into the process, but it also gives you back great information as a teacher leader on how you can develop practices that are about continuous improvement and about creating that space where your students are getting the most out of their environment. You also grow by creating serving opportunities for students. We always talk about how difficult it is to find volunteers. You got them sitting right in your class. And sometimes I feel like in small churches, we take on a lot without inviting people into sharing in the ministry space with us. So look at how you can empower students, give them opportunities, even children. You would be surprised at how children own their opportunity. Think about elementary school. It is a big deal to be the line leader. It is a big deal, but it is a big deal to be the caboose. You get to turn the light switch off. It's a big deal. So you know, what kinds of opportunities can you create? Even for children in our Sunday school, at one point, they all had these individual notebooks, and the teacher would always have a writing prompt at the beginning. They would spend seven or eight minutes, well, as long as they heard the music, they were to keep writing on this writing prompt that had to deal with the lesson. But it was a big deal when it was your week to pass out the notebooks to everybody. So you know, think about those small ways that you can engage students, giving them a part of the community to be connected to. And then, as teachers, how do you keep growing? You find those places that fuel and feed you, you have got to always tap into that's what I love about the small church network. It is a space where there are people just like you who are serving and motivating and encouraging each other. So finding books that inspire you, attending workshops that are good for you, collaborating with other Christian educators, and more than anything, you grow when you celebrate successes that happen. And it doesn't have to be the biggest win in the world, a win is a win. So find the ways that you are celebrating those successes in your teaching spaces. I

Laurie Acker: 25:07

just want to take a deep breath and listen to the whole replay again like I'm like, Oh my gosh, there was so much good stuff. Would you just review really quick, your s, p, a, r, k, absolutely.

Waynell Henson: 25:16

The spark method is our S is that you are going to stimulate passion. The P, promote an inviting atmosphere. A, active engagement. R, revitalizing relationship. S and k keep growing.

Laurie Acker: 25:35

I love this so much. And as you were talking and going through each one, I was like, you know, every Sunday School teacher I know has some of those. They're really great at, and other ones that are a little bit lesser, right? And I think one of the things like is like to kind of consider, like, even in your season, which one could you grow in? Which one of those five? Like, what am I missing right now in my season? Or what did I used to do that I don't do now, things like that. And as you were talking my nail, I just want to say I was thinking before we got on today, like, why do I love her so much? Because I've loved you since the moment I found like, that's the moment we connected. And I'm like, one of the reasons I love you so much. And I think this shows up on your Facebook and your Instagram and your YouTubes and everything, is that you are constantly growing. You're not a person who's arrived who's trying to get everybody caught up. Learn what I know. Like you literally talk it and you you start conversations about new things all the time, and even Spark is not what you were talking about 10 years ago, you know. And so I love as you are growing and learning new things, you're on that edge, and you're calling people to kind of come with you, not just with what you learned, but grow. Like, let's grow. Let's learn together. Let's have the conversations. And so I love that you're that that model and an example in that way for us too. So thank you so much for everything you shared.

Waynell Henson: 26:56

Thank you so much. And I'm excited about the ministry inside of everyone who will hear this podcast. And it is always my prayer that you know that we will be the spark, that we will not only spark Sunday school, but we will be the spark in someone else's journey, the spark in what makes them ask the question, How can I be better? What does God want of me, and how can I be stronger in my faith? So and I always pray that every ministry will see its value and understand again, you don't have to be the biggest church on the block to have the most impact. So I always pray that you have the resources that you need, that God will open up every window that you need, and always send you the people that you are assigned to in that space and in that season to be their spark. Yeah,

Laurie Acker: 27:45

yeah, yeah. One thing you mentioned as you were talking to and I love that you did this. I meant to ask you it beforehand, but you kind of brought it in is that Sunday school, like everything you just taught, is for all ages, absolutely, like when you talked about engagement and activity, and that's not just for youngers. And I think that the depth and the quality of your teaching also isn't just for adults, because in some denominations, Sunday School is children go to Sunday school and adults go to small groups. And so for you, I know Sunday School encompasses every age. Spark method, it encompasses every age. And if you're teaching any age level, please, like, really, this is, this is a replay, one that I'm gonna say, Go share with your teachers, share with your pastor, share with everybody in your church. Because the the value of what, what you just shared, waynell is great for every age, in every every place. So before I let you go today, as we're running out of time, how do people connect with you? And also, what's new on the horizon, or what, what are you really excited to talk about? I know you've got an ebook. You have, like, swag now, like, I've been watching you. I'm like, this woman, like, how cool is this? So whatever you want to talk about, you know, what do you want people to know about, and how can they connect with you?

Waynell Henson: 28:57

Allow me to say thank you again for having me in your space today and continued blessings in what you do. You are inside of such a God opportunity, and I love the passion that you bring to it. As you inspire others, I would love to connect with you all. You can find me in the digital space under the name that Sunday school girl. If we're not already connected on YouTube, what are you waiting for? Pull out your phone now, get over to YouTube, search that Sunday school girl, and hit the subscribe button so that we can be permanent friends. You'll also find me on Facebook, Instagram, and, yeah, even on Tiktok. And so I'm excited about sharing and all of those mediums. But I am also very excited to have produced and launched my first book, which is available now on Amazon. It is called equipped for purpose. And if you type in equipped for purpose, Wayne el Hinton, it'll pop right up for you. And I would love for you to have that it is a 50 devotion it's 50 devotionals. It says for Sunday school teachers. But the truth is, this book has blessed people in lots of different spaces, other ministry areas, and I've been most blessed by a corporate coach who brought the book for 27 members of her team, because it is a book that, literally in small reads, encourages you in the assignment that you're in, and it speaks to all sorts of things that sort of can get us sidetracked as we're serving in ministry. So if you're in any ministry space, I promise you, it's a good read. It's an easy read, and it allows some space for some personal reflection. And I've heard wonderful feedback on just how approachable the book is, so please check it out also. If you are a looking for curriculum that is a little non traditional, and I'm having to look at some things that are non traditional to meet the needs of young adults in our space, and quite frankly, just to bring something different to the space. Let's be honest, everybody may not like traditional Sunday school. So if you look on Amazon as well, under the name future focus. And future is an acronym, so put in f period, u period. Continue on future focus, you will find a curriculum that I designed as a six week curriculum. It can be expanded to 12, which is largely built around career goal setting, personal goal setting from a Bible based perspective, and it takes people through the opportunity to not only set their goals, but to create their resumes, their LinkedIn profiles, even to have a professional headshot. There are all sorts of things that we do in these spaces to minister to the total man. And I think if you look at why we educate people from a Bible perspective, it is at the end of the day so that they can go out and be great citizens in the world, reflecting God and His kingdom. So our workspaces, our personal goals, are a part of that. So I'd love for you to check that out, and there's a teacher guide, and there's also a Participant Guide. So hope you'll enjoy that. Awesome. Yeah,

Laurie Acker: 31:48

we will be sure to drop the links in the show notes as well. But definitely you all if you, if you have not yet connected with waynell, you need to do that. So find that Sunday school girl and wherever you're listening from, you know, our prayer is always that, you know, it's not just information, but it's transformation. So think back of just one thing, one thing that waynell said that that kind of nudged you in your heart. You know, to think about like, How can I incorporate that? What do I need to do to level up there? What do I need to look into, to grow as the leader that you are. Like, take this podcast, not only share it with others, but how is it going to impact your life as you listen today? Because we don't need just to say, oh, that's another 3030, minutes of my life. I don't get back. No, it's a 30 minutes that you just invested if you take a step toward it. So I usually am the podcast with be a light. But I think in honor of waynell, until next week, I'm gonna say be a spark. You.